Comments on: Flying the Flag http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=67 A delicate blend of sarcasm and spite. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:34:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Greenion http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-4031 Greenion Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:36:57 +0000 http://www.moorgard.com/?p=67#comment-4031 uh...when i was a teenager me and a few buddies swiped a McDonald's flag... i pinned it to the ceiling of my room for the longest time... to this day, i am still a big fan of their dollar menu and often find myself buying happy meals at lunchtime to gain a toy to give my kids... i still have the flag boxed up neatly in the garage...it symbolizes a time in my life when i did really stupid things that could've gotten me arrested.... the feelings within me that the flag kindles in fact do not make me more proud of giving my kids happy meal toys. uh…when i was a teenager me and a few buddies swiped a McDonald’s flag…

i pinned it to the ceiling of my room for the longest time…

to this day, i am still a big fan of their dollar menu and often find myself buying happy meals at lunchtime to gain a toy to give my kids…

i still have the flag boxed up neatly in the garage…it symbolizes a time in my life when i did really stupid things that could’ve gotten me arrested….

the feelings within me that the flag kindles in fact do not make me more proud of giving my kids happy meal toys.

]]> By: Itoock http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-3872 Itoock Thu, 13 Jul 2006 16:58:18 +0000 http://www.moorgard.com/?p=67#comment-3872 First of all I fly the rebel flag daily and I am damn proud of it. Those of you who take it as racist or as a symbol of hatred are mentally retarded. I am from Georgia and it means alot to me. The government keeps passing all these laws trying to outlaw it, like when they took it out of our state flag, but all they are really doing is pissing us rednecks off by giving in to the liberal cry baby crowd. Our first right as americans is free speech, ill exercise this right with my flag for the rest of my life. As for how others feel about it who cares. They have the ability to move away dont they? So whats that got to do with anything. I see it as southern pride like you stated above, but I see it as my heritage more so. Its where I came from and who I am, who are so many of you against my right to show my heritage? To make you love me more Moorgard I am in Dissolution and proud of that to :) First of all I fly the rebel flag daily and I am damn proud of it. Those of you who take it as racist or as a symbol of hatred are mentally retarded. I am from Georgia and it means alot to me.
The government keeps passing all these laws trying to outlaw it, like when they took it out of our state flag, but all they are really doing is pissing us rednecks off by giving in to the liberal cry baby crowd. Our first right as americans is free speech, ill exercise this right with my flag for the rest of my life. As for how others feel about it who cares. They have the ability to move away dont they? So whats that got to do with anything.
I see it as southern pride like you stated above, but I see it as my heritage more so. Its where I came from and who I am, who are so many of you against my right to show my heritage?
To make you love me more Moorgard I am in Dissolution and proud of that to :)

]]> By: Moorgard http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-3859 Moorgard Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:31:24 +0000 http://www.moorgard.com/?p=67#comment-3859 "Is there a way to reclaim some of those symbols without the crusading backlash?" I guess it just depends how far it has been taken. Some symbols just aren't worth the effort and the hurt feelings that attempts to reclaim them would engender. Words are the same way. Alone, they are only sounds; the meaning comes from the speaker's intent (which is what makes TV/movie censorship so silly, because there is always a euphemism for anything you want to say). However, it's unlikely that words like racial slurs will ever be available for use by the masses without being seen as insults. Flags are just scraps of fabric, but it's the context that gives them meaning--sometimes deadly meaning. “Is there a way to reclaim some of those symbols without the crusading backlash?”

I guess it just depends how far it has been taken. Some symbols just aren’t worth the effort and the hurt feelings that attempts to reclaim them would engender.

Words are the same way. Alone, they are only sounds; the meaning comes from the speaker’s intent (which is what makes TV/movie censorship so silly, because there is always a euphemism for anything you want to say). However, it’s unlikely that words like racial slurs will ever be available for use by the masses without being seen as insults.

Flags are just scraps of fabric, but it’s the context that gives them meaning–sometimes deadly meaning.

]]> By: Naladini http://www.mobhunter.com/?p=67&cpage=1#comment-3846 Naladini Thu, 13 Jul 2006 03:12:28 +0000 http://www.moorgard.com/?p=67#comment-3846 A similar issue happened at the World Cup: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3213796,00.html From what I've seen over the past few years, it just feels like some people like to get "offended" about anything. The catch is, many times they're not actually offended. They're looking for an issue to crusade about, something that they think might offend someone else, so they can become a champion in their defense. A related issue that I would bring up is one of symbolism. Far too many symbols that started out with innocent or virtuous meanings have been adopted and associated with something heinous over the years. Is there a way to reclaim some of those symbols without the crusading backlash? A similar issue happened at the World Cup: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3213796,00.html

From what I’ve seen over the past few years, it just feels like some people like to get “offended” about anything. The catch is, many times they’re not actually offended. They’re looking for an issue to crusade about, something that they think might offend someone else, so they can become a champion in their defense.

A related issue that I would bring up is one of symbolism. Far too many symbols that started out with innocent or virtuous meanings have been adopted and associated with something heinous over the years. Is there a way to reclaim some of those symbols without the crusading backlash?

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