This definition is very limiting.

Average people doing extraordinary things makes them heroic.

Everyone is an ordinary human that can also do extraordinary things.

Given the correct opportunity everyone can be extraordinary.

Hunting in the dreadlands, but instead of finding a safe spot we chose to sit right in the middle of the traffic as well as have two pullers, a druid rooting for cc and an enchanter mezzing. This gave us non stop action, more mobs then we knew what to do with but somehow tested us and increased our skill.

Instead of taking the easy route and quad kitting umborus toilers in Maiden’s Eye a shaman friend would join me and we would snare pull as many as we could and dot nuke them, imagine 15 – 20 or so coming at you and having to keep track of where each of them were health/doT wise an inevitably having a few break free and having to adjust.

Heading into Sunken Temple before either wow expansion with just a 60 druid, 53 shaman, and 47 warlock and clearing the place.

Unfortunately most players I have come across are not interested in attempting these types of things as it has become all about numbers and efficiency. Why would they try somethign different when there is already “THE” place and “THE” way to get the best possible XP per hour.

EQ for me was about enjoying the journey, everything since has been about the mad dash to get to the top.

OMG how much more epic can you get then fighting little green snakes that can KICK! come on theres nothing more epic then kicking snakes

This cannot be denied!

At the same time, I also agree with Steve in his opinion about what the insane reduction of downtime has done to MMOs. Lets face it, every game has gone to extremes to be “not Everquest.” Which is a shame in some ways. Most modern MMOs don’t tolerate soloing, they make sure you can be by yourself from one to cap. Not only that, the system has evolved from where soloing was possible to soloing is desirable. I love to group but frankly in Warhammer it seems to be counter productive to fast leveling. I can do more solo, which is a tragedy considering its an MMO.

I know I’m a relic of a system long since gone but I miss some of those hard features. You should -always- get better rewards in a group. Not barely so, but obviously. More experience, more loot, more money and more socializing. MMO used to mean you played with others. Now, for a lot of players, it just means you have a convenient chat channel with your friends while you solo. At least Warhammer more or less mandates it for RvR. That doesn’t change the PvE zones though.

And that, however, is a tangent and I apologize. It would be very hard to feel like a hero but not too bad to feel “big.”